Matt Halloran is partner and the voice of Top Advisor Marketing. He has worked in financial services for over 20 years as a life and business coach, financial branding and social media expert, along with writing, speaking and hosting a popular podcast. He is the author of The Social Media Handbook for Financial Advisors and The 99 Best Ideas for Financial Service Professionals to Use in Their Practices. 

Takeaway Quote:

“Nothing else matters if you can’t listen. Listening is a skill that needs to be practiced.” 

Show Timeline:    

1:31 Why Matt is known as an insane podcast host
His love for sitting in front of a microphone and how he approaches the work
3:35 What he learned from his experience in working with grieving families
The importance of truly listening and understanding the right language
6:53 How to translate these skills to the financial advisory world
How most advisors talk to their clients and one of the most important rules Matt teaches
10:15 The transition from Matt’s previous work to the financial space
From working as a therapist to working with Ron Carson
14:36 How to internalize effective communication styles
The importance of role playing and continual practice
18:32 Applying communications principles to social media marketing
Listening through social networks and using that to tailor your conversations with clients
23:00 How advisors can get started with new communications strategies
What not to do, and the resources that are available to you
25:30 How a well-defined niche can target your marketing in powerful ways
Exercises to help you focus in on a niche
28:59 Specific tactics for incorporating your passion into your social media approach
Connecting with like-minded people across vast distances, to the benefit of your business
31:09 Driving referrals through social media
A comfortable and highly effective way to get an introduction from your clients

Links:

Website: www.TopAdvisorMarketing.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthallorantam
Podcast: https://topadvisormarketing.podbean.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/matt_TopAdvisor
Books: The Social Media Handbook for Financial Advisors, The 99 Best Ideas for Financial Service Professionals to Use in Their Practices

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Stephen Wershing: www.TheClientDrivenPractice.com/checklistblog
Julie Littlechild: www.absoluteengagement.com/blog

Episode Transcript:

Steve Wershing:       
Welcome to Becoming Referable, the podcast that shows you how to become the kind of advisor people can’t stop talking about. I’m Steve Wershing.

On this episode, we talk with Matthew Halloran, partner and the voice of Top Advisor Marketing. Matt is an insane podcast host, and since Julie and I are fans of both podcasting and insanity, we couldn’t wait to have Matt on. Matt has a really interesting background, including experience as a therapist working with families of the dying in hospice, where there was real urgency in translating medical jargon into conversational language, and we talk about how we can apply those lessons so that you can communicate more effectively and deepen your relationship with clients.

We talk about how to make communication through social media more intimate. We discuss the big gap that still exists with advisors in communicating with their clients, the five communication mistakes advisors commonly make, and how you can avoid them and communicate more effectively with clients.

Matt tells us about the outrageous offer he made to Ron Carson that got him into financial services in the first place. And listen through to the end, where we talk about how you can talk with clients about referrals without being a schlub. And so without further ado, here’s our conversation with Matt Halloran.

So, Matt Halloran, welcome to the Becoming Referable podcast. Thanks for joining us.

Matt Halloran:    
Thank you very much for having me.

Steve Wershing:     
And so let me just start out with this. I mean, you’re described as an insane podcast host, which I aspire to be, of course, and so how do you-

Julie Littlechild:      
I think you are, Steve.

Steve Wershing: 
Well, thank you. I knew I could count on you for that, Julie, and I appreciate the boost.

Julie Littlechild:    
Yeah, no problem.

Steve Wershing:       
So how do you apply that insanity to podcasting and how can you help us be insane in podcasting as well?

Matt Halloran:    
Well, Kirk Lowe was the person who labeled me as insane, so we should probably look at the person who called me that first. But I think what he’s referring to, and why we use that as part of our marketing and P.R. is just because this is what I get up for in the morning. I started doing radio when I was 13 years old at my high school. It was The Madman Matt Halloran Show. And then I was the news director for my college radio station for three years.

Radio has been something that’s very near and dear to me, and just being in front of a microphone has always been very comfortable. And I think the insanity that Kirk refers to is the ability to totally immerse yourself in the guest. That’s my goal. So when I am preparing for a podcast, I’m doing what, Steve, you and I just talked about. You were digging up some stuff on me. You were looking at me online. I’m doing the same thing, if I can find a podcast or a video and how the person talks.

But the biggest goal is to be in the moment. It’s nice to have preordained questions, which we all do as competent podcast hosts, but it’s also super awesome when somebody says something that you really, truly hear and want to have as another talking point and be able to move to that seamlessly.

Steve Wershing:    
Yeah. Yep. Well, that makes a lot of sense, and I agree with you. We share that. Being well briefed makes for a better interview, and it lets you be in the moment, which is part of the challenge, and it’s a challenge that’s faced by advisors as well when they meet new folks.

Now, speaking about how you talk with people and how you relate to them, in that research, I was fascinated by your background in psychology and in working with the dying, and some of those experiences. And one of the things that really stood out to me was a quote of you where you said that working with the dying helped you understand that people need to hear important information in the language they understand rather than the language that comes naturally to the practitioner.

And so as soon as I saw that, I said, “Oh, well, that’s obviously stuff that we have to learn.” But before I ask you that, can you tell us a little bit about some of the experiences that helped you understand that?

Matt Halloran:     
Sure. I graduated with the two most worthless degrees you can possibly graduate with. It was communications and philosophy. And my philosophy degree actually is in biomedical ethics, and so I got an internship to a hospital system in Omaha, Nebraska to do biomedical ethics. Now, I was under the impression I was going to be teaching biomedical ethics, but that’s actually not what happened. That’s not true; that was part of my job.

The other part of my job was to wear a pager. Now, that’s how long ago this was. And every time my pager went off, that meant somebody was dying, and my job was to rush to whatever hospital was on the code of my pager, go to the ICU, the NICU, or a hospital room, and be the go-between between physicians, nurses, and then a family. Because the physicians were using physicians-speak and the nurses were using nurses-speak, and I had to somehow communicate to a person who’s massively traumatized in grief … and most of the people, 99% of the people, who I dealt with as the actual client … they were not conscious, so I was just dealing with that person’s family. And then the one time that the person was conscious, totally different story.

But it’s very, very difficult to explain to somebody that, “Yes, you see that your husband, wife, son, daughter is breathing, but we are doing that for them. Let me explain to you how that works.” And so that’s really what ended up happening. It’s all about listening, right? That’s the most important thing. Not only listening, but in our financial services, it’s really about truly understanding the language. And I had to learn doctor language. And then when I moved over to financial services, I had to learn financial services language.

And all of the acronyms and all of the buzzwords that we’re so comfortable with, the general public has no idea what you’re talking about. So trying to make it so that you can communicate more effectively has been a real passion of mine, and that’s one of the reasons why we podcast, guys. When I podcast with our podcasting clients who have hired us to do that for them, part of my job as the host is to say, “Hold on.”

This just happened on a podcast. He was referring to pink sheets or penny stocks, but he called them billboard stocks. Now, I had actually never heard that before. Been doing this for a long time. And so I said, “Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I’ve never heard of that before,” and that made him, “Oh, Matt, you know what? Yeah, that’s what we call it in-house.” I was like, “Ah-ha.” And then I made him explain really what that meant to our listeners.

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